Showing posts with label histadelic bipolar. Show all posts
Showing posts with label histadelic bipolar. Show all posts

Monday, March 19, 2012

Histadelia and Methylation. Part IVB: SAM to HCY

1. In giving up its methyl to proteins and DNA, SAM becomes SAH.
2. SAH then releases adenosine and re-forms homocysteine. 
See diagram here.


SAH accumulation when adenosine is over-elevated
This latter reaction (2), however, is suppressed if adenosine and homocysteine are already excessive. Moreover, the reaction itself is reversible.
When SAH accumulates, it suppresses methylation (by inactivating methyltransferases).
This situation is usually due to severe oxidative stress, interfering with both methylation and glutathione availability.*

* Note: And is common in autistics. A study by Dr. S. Jill James, for instance, finds methionine, SAM and glutathione low, but excessive SAH, adenosine, homocysteine and oxidized glutathione. Sulfur antioxidants, including glutathione are excessively low, but excreted in the urine. Severe oxidative stress (compounded by metal metabolism dysfunction) interferes with methionine formation via methyl B12, thus compromising methylation. Further discussion of autism chemistry here.

Histadelic bipolar treatment (Walsh) 
(In presence of severe oxidative stress, creating SAH and perhaps some HCY accumulation.)
1 Supply glutathione to create homocysteine from SAH, and to attach methyl to B12 so it will convert HCY to methionine. Or, methyl-B12 may need to be provided directly.
2 Address any factors worsening oxidative stress, such as metal metabolism dysfunction.


On the other hand, if the cycle proceeds normally, we get:
SAM methylation reactions  --via methyl transferase--   yield SAH
SAH  --via  SAH hydrolase--- yields adenosine + homocysteine



At homocysteine we come to diverging paths
1 Homocysteine may continue within the methylation cycle.
2 However, when more glutathione is needed to support the methyl B12/ methionine synthase step, which turns homocysteine into methionine,
homocysteine is diverted down the transsulfuration pathyway to create more glutathione.

See Dr. Deth's discussion of this choice point here:
 

Our next post, will explain more about the Trans-Sulfuration Pathway, which, when functioning well, creates critical sulfur antioxidants, and ultimately transforms or eliminates problematic sulfur compounds and other toxins.

Reminder: This information is presented for educational purposes only, and is not intended as diagnosis or treatment recommendations for the individual. Even within the histadelic subgroup, each person's biochemical requirements tend to be unique. So if you need treatment for depression, mania, bipolar, or any other medical condition, please consult a knowledgeable physician. 


For info on the role of histadelia in bipolar disorder, see my book, Natural Healing for Bipolar Disorder
 

Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Histadelia and Methylation. Part II: B12 and folate

Folic acid accumulation, methyl-B12, and histadelic bipolar disorder

Dr. Walsh, 2008:  "For most undermethylated persons, folate and B12 are critical to therapy. However, psychiatric patients with abnormal levels of norepinephrine, dopamine, or serotonin are an exception to this rule. They represent a special case, in which the methyl/folate ratio in the brain becomes the predominant concern."

We are focused here on our step #1 in the methylation cycle:
Homocysteine  --via methyl folate + methyl B12--  yields methionine
See: Diagram of the methylation cycle.


Here is what is supposed to happen:

1A
Folic acid  --methylene-tetrahydro-folate-reductase + SAM--  yields a methyl-folate (5-MTHF)
That is:
Folic acid is methylated by 5-MTHF-R to create 5-MTHF  (methylene-tetrahydro-folate), a methyl folate, the active form of folic acid.

1B
Homocysteine  --via methionine synthase + methyl B12*--  yields Methionine
That is:
Methyl is transferred from 5-MTHF  to B12, creating methyl-B12 (methyl-cobalamin).  
The enzyme, methionine synthase, transfers the methyl from methyl-B12 to homocysteine, converting it into methionine.

* Or via the betaine (trimethylglycine) pathway: HCY + TMG  yields  Methionine + DMG 
This pathway is enhanced when the b12/methionine path is suppresed, but is not very efficient in some people anyway.

Histadelics can have problems methylating folate due to:
2 Insufficient methyl.

Why should histadelics limit folic acid?
— Histadelic generally already show excess accumulation of folic acid and deteriorate when given folate supplements.
— As Walsh has proposed, folic acid can increase synaptic reuptake, reducing serotonin and dopamine availability in the synapse, worsening the already severe depression of histadelia. (Specifically, folate modifies histones so as to generate acetylase enzymes, which promote expression of transporters, which remove serotonin and dopamine from the synapse, decreasing levels available to interact with receptors.) Increased synaptic reuptake turns out to be more critical to histadelic mood than the potentially supportive effect of folate on methylation. (See Walsh 2010: Depression)
— Other potential problems: difficulty joining methyl to the folic acid or transferring that methyl to B12. Or, folic acid may trap methyl molecules.

Therapeutic approaches  (Walsh)
External methyl sources are given to ramp up the methylation cycle:
   Methionine, SAMe, increased dietary methyl,  as relevant.
Supplemental methyl B12 (or betaine, if indicated) may be needed to insure that homocysteine is metabolized to methionine.
Again, supplemental folic acid is not recommended as it will just increase already high levels of folate.
Note: If  folic acid is not excessive, restriction is harmful to health and is not indicated.

Next post: Histadelia, B12 and glutathione

For more info on histadelia and bipolar disorder, see my book, Natural Healing for Bipolar Disorder

Reminder: This information is presented for educational purposes only, and is not intended as diagnosis or treatment recommendations for the individual. Even within the histadelic subgroup, each person's biochemical requirements tend to be unique. So if you need treatment bipolar disorder, or any other medical condition, please consult a knowledgeable physician.